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Original Prusa i3 MK3S+ kit
The Original Prusa i3 MK3S+ is the latest version of our award-winning 3D printers. We have upgraded the MK3S with a brand new SuperPINDA probe for improved first layer calibration, added high-quality Misumi bearings and made various useful design tweaks.
This listing is a DIY KIT for self-assembly. We also offer a fully built and tested 3D printer.
Warning for US customers: If you select the combination with both steel sheets, your order will exceed $800 (with shipping) and you may be charged with customs duties. More info
The kit includes a free 1kg filament spool of Silver PLA!
Orders have a leadtime of 1-2 weeks. Check out the shipping table.
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INTRODUCING THE ORIGINAL PRUSA I3 MK3S+ 3D PRINTER!
The Original Prusa i3 MK3S+ is the latest version of our award-winning 3D printers. We have upgraded the MK3S with a brand new SuperPINDA probe for improved first layer calibration, added high-quality Misumi bearings and various useful design tweaks to make the printer easier to assemble and maintain. The MK3S+ includes all the proven features of the previous models, including the heatbed with removable PEI spring steel print sheets, automatic Mesh Bed Leveling, filament sensor, power loss recovery (power panic) and safety features. And it is still as silent as ever! The MK3S+ is available as an assembly kit, which is the best way to get to know your new 3D printer. Assemble it screw by screw to learn truly everything about its design and how it works! You can also get it fully assembled and factory tested, so all you need to do is to unpack it and plug it in. Thanks to all of these (and many other) features, the MK3S became the “Best 3D Printer” according to ALL3DP. The MK3S is also the highest-rated 3D printer, and the “Editor’s Choice”, in the prestigious MAKE:MAGAZINE’s Digital Fabrication Guide 2019. The MK3S is also featured in TechRadar's Best 3D printers of 2021 as The best all-around 3D printer. NY Times wrote that "...of the 11 printers we’ve tested over the past five years, the Prusa i3 MK3S printer has produced the largest and best-looking prints." According to ZDNet, the MK3S is "The best pro-sumer 3D printer under 1000 USD." The functionality of the MK3S+ can be further enhanced by our unique Multi-Material Upgrade 2S for printing with up to 5 filaments simultaneously. Our printers have received many awards over the years and we keep working hard to make them even better! |  |
WHAT’S NEW IN THE MK3S+
SUPERPINDA PROBE
SuperPINDA probe features a hiqh-quality sensor for a fully-automatic Mesh Bed Leveling process. Before every print, the MK3S+ probes the bed in several places and creates a virtual heightmap of the print area. This process ensures that the first layer will always be spot on!
MISUMI BEARINGS & MORE
The MK3S+ features a new set of metal clips for the genuine MISUMI bearings on the Y-axis. The belt tensioning mechanism on the X-axis was reworked and the X-end plastic parts reinforced. The filament path in the extruder was altered for better support of flexible filaments.
DOZENS OF TWEAKS
With all the cumulative upgrades from the entire MK3’s life cycle on board, the MK3S+ is the best version of our award-winning 3D printer so far. Genuine Gates belts, Bondtech drive gears, EINSY RAMBo motherboard, IR filament sensor, and many other features are the reason why the MK3S+ is the perfect 3D printing workhorse.
WHAT WE ARE PROUD OF...
The most significant features of Original Prusa i3 MK3S+
REMOVABLE PRINT SHEETS
Spring steel sheets are easy to maintain and make removing the printed object from the print surface a breeze. We offer three types of print surface: smooth, textured and satin to cover all your needs when printing from a wide range of different materials - most of which do not require any special separation layers or surface preparation.
HIGH-QUALITY PARTS
The MK3S+ features an aluminum extrusion Y-axis assembly. Thanks to the milled dural frame, the MK3S+ is stable, rigid, and easy to assemble. Combined with our internally developed extruder featuring Bondtech gears and the E3D V6 hotend, the MK3S+ can print high-quality objects up to 210 mm in height.
MESH BED LEVELING
Thanks to the SuperPINDA probe, the MK3S+ can use the Mesh Bed Leveling process to compensate for microscopic imperfections of the print sheet, and inconsistencies caused by the assembly and stacking of the manufacturing tolerances of various parts. Achieving a great-looking first layer is quick and easy.
POWER LOSS RECOVERY
Are you afraid of a blackout ruining your 48-hour print? Worry no more - the MK3S+ can deal with that! The printer can fully recover from the loss of power and continue printing exactly where it left off. It detects power interruptions and shuts down the heatbed and extruder heating, and saves the last known location.
FILAMENT SENSOR
The MK3S+ further enhances the reworked extruder from the MK3S. The built-in filament sensor uses a reliable trigger system, which detects whether a strand of filament is inserted into the extruder. It can detect any type and color of filament and is not susceptible to mechanical wear.
SILENT AND FAST
Thanks to the Trinamic 2130 drivers and super silent fan, the MK3S+ supports the stealth printing mode, which makes the printer extremely quiet. Even in the normal printing mode, the MK3S+ is quieter than most 3D printers on the market. In the normal mode, the MK3S+ can achieve a print speed of more than 200 mm/s!
SLICE WITH PRUSASLICER!
Our internally developed multiplatform slicer comes with in-house made and fully tested profiles for all of our 3D printers and a wide range of filaments. With built-in tools, such as advanced support generation, cutting, automated object distribution, ironing and many others, you will turn your 3D models into print files in no time!
SUPPORT FOR PLENTY OF MATERIALS
The MK3S+ is fully compatible with a wide range of various types of materials. No matter whether you want to print something for fun from PLA and flexible materials, or you need to produce durable prototypes from PETG, ASA, Polycarbonate and Polypropylene - the MK3S+ can handle them with ease.
OPEN-SOURCE HARDWARE & FIRMWARE
We develop firmware for all of our 3D printers and test every new version thoroughly before release. Ongoing development and regular updates ensure that our machines are packed with useful features, such as print sheet profiles, automated calibration, Mesh bed leveling, advanced diagnostics, remaining print time estimation, Octoprint support and more!
READ MORE ABOUT THE FEATURES INTRODUCED BY THE MK3S+ UPGRADE HERE, AND CHECK OUT THE ANNOUNCEMENTS OF THE MK3S AND THE ORIGINAL MK3.
Check out the official announcement video!
Original Prusa i3 MK3S assembly timelapse
THE ORIGINAL PRUSA I3 MK3/S/+ REVIEWS
ANIWAA review
"The MK3S is capable of delivering consistent quality prints and PrusaSlicer does a great job at prepping STL files, [it's] an excellent 3D printer that can provide professional-grade results." Read more (EN)...
PC MAG REVIEW
"The preassembled version of the Original Prusa i3 MK3S is a cinch to get up and running, is easy to operate, and has a good slicing program. It produced consistently beautiful prints in our testing, with no misprints." Read more...
THE NEW YORK TIMES REVIEW
"Of the 11 printers we have tested over the past five years, the Prusa i3 MK3S printer has produced the largest and best-looking prints." Read more...
STIFTUNG WARENTEST: 3D DRUCKER TEST 2020
Test winner: Best device in the test, very versatile, can print in multiple colors. Processes almost everything there is in filament: PLA, ABS, PETG, Nylon, Flex and more." Read more... (translated from German)
HACKSPACE UK REVIEW
"You can get under the hood and tinker with this or change that, but you don’t have to. MK3S is a printer that ‘just works’ for beginners, yet is still powerful enough for advanced use. 10/10” Read more...
CHIP (DE) REVIEW
"As the test shows, the Prusa Research Original Prusa i3 MK3S did a lot right. It is well processed, has many great features and the printing costs are very low. Especially the print quality is excellent.” Read more (DE)...
FORBES: THE BEST 3-D PRINTERS OF 2019
"Designers that rely on 3-D printing as part of their livelihood use Prusa printers to turn out consistent, quality results. These kits contain expertly chosen parts, with an eye on recent technological upgrades.” Read more...
ALL3DP MK3S REVIEW
"We tested it using its default settings and found it extremely capable. Its print quality is truly exceptional and it’s an easy-to-use, straightforward machine.” Read more...
TECHRADAR REVIEW
"If you're looking for your first 3D printer, you like to tinker, or you run a business and want a good reliable machine then look no further than the Original Prusa i3 MK3S.” Read more...
WINDOWS CENTRAL REVIEW
"The team at Prusa Research have made something special with the MK3. If you only ever own one printer, make it this one. Of course, once you buy it you will want more of them, and that's ok too.” Read more...
3D MAKER NOOB MK3 REVIEW
"In short. What I don't like about this printer? The rubber feet. What I like? Absolutely everything else!” Watch the video...
ALL3DP MK3 REVIEW
"Using this 3D printer has been a joy and an education. (...) The Original Prusa i3 MK3 is highly, thoroughly, and unreservedly recommended.” Read more...
MAKE: MAGAZINE MK3 QUICK LOOK
"This has a lot of really exciting features that are pushing what the industry is going to be doing.” Watch the video...
THOMAS SANLADERER: MK3 REVIEW
"MK3 - highly recommended. I'm really looking forward to everything this printer does becoming standard everywhere.” Watch the video...
GREATSCOTT!: MK3 REVIEW
"With it's combination of useful new features, along with the reliability and quality of the prints, this is a 3D printer that, especially in the kit form, offers a great price-performance ratio.” Watch the video...
3D PRINTING NERD - MK3 UNBOXING / 3D PRINTING / FIRST IMPRESSIONS
"Josef Prusa and Prusa Research sent over a fully assembled Prusa i3 mk3 3d printer for me to test out and show off on the channel.” Watch the video...
MAKER'S MUSE: MK3 REVIEW
"The smarts, the removable print surface and dependable quality make it perfect for design and prototyping.” Watch the video...
3D INSIDER: MK3 REVIEW
"It is without a doubt the best 3D printer under $1,000 (...) It offers outstanding quality for a reasonable price and comes with a truckload of features.” Read more...
FULL FEATURES LIST (APRIL 2021 EDITION)
BASIC INFORMATION
- Build volume: 25×21×21 cm (9.84"×8.3"×8.3")
- Layer height: 0.05 - 0.35 mm
- Nozzle: 0.4mm default, wide range of other diameters/nozzles supported
- Filament diameter: 1.75 mm
- Supported materials: Wide range of thermoplastics, including PLA, PETG, ASA, ABS, PC (Polycarbonate), CPE, PVA/BVOH, HIPS, PP (Polypropylene), Flex, nGen, Nylon, Carbon filled, Woodfill and other filled materials.
- Max travel speed: 200+ mm/s
- Max nozzle temperature: 300 °C / 572 °F
- Max heatbed temperature: 120 °C / 248 °F
- Extruder: Direct Drive, Bondtech gears, E3D V6 hotend
- Print surface: Removable magnetic steel sheets with different surface finishes, heatbed with cold corners compensation
- Safety features: IR filament sensor, high-quality Delta PSU with Power Panic, 3 thermistors, RPM monitoring
- LCD Screen: Monochromatic LCD
- Kit box dimensions: 11 kg, 24×42×43 cm; 9.5×16.5×16.9 in (X×Y×Z)
- Assembled printer box dimensions: 11 kg, 54×52×48 cm; 21×20.5×18.9 in (X×Y×Z)
- Printer dimensions (without spool): 7 kg, 50×55×40 cm; 19.6×21.6×15.7 in (X×Y×Z)
- Power consumption: PLA settings: 80W / ABS settings: 120W
* Consumable parts, such as PEI sheets (smooth, textured, etc.) are not covered by warranty as the coatings are designed to diminish over time unless failure has occurred due to a defect in materials or workmanship. Cosmetic damage, including but not limited to scratches, dents, cracks, or other cosmetic damage is also not covered by the warranty. Only defective sheets on arrival are covered by warranty.
ADVANCED FEATURES
- Controller: EINSY RAMBo 8-bit board with Trinamic 2130 drivers (256 microstepping), co-developed with Ultimachine, sensorless homing for X and Y axes
- Mesh Bed Leveling: Advanced high-quality SuperPINDA sensor (Super Prusa INDuction Autoleveling sensor)
- Print sheet profiles: Firmware supports print sheet profiles to store Live Z calibration data to enable quick switching between different print sheets.
- Filament sensor: IR sensor built-in, supports filament auto-loading. Print pauses when filament runs out.
- Power Panic: Hardware-based, single G-code line accuracy
- Ethernet connection: via Raspberry Pi (optional)
- Wi-Fi connection: via Raspberry Pi (optional)
- Advanced sensors: 3 thermistors, fans RPM monitoring, SuperPINDA
- Calibration: Automatic, Mesh Bed Leveling, SelfTest
- Print medium: SD card (16 GB card included)
- Firmware update: via PC (USB cable)
- PSU: Custom-made Delta PSU with hardware-based power panic
- Advanced features: Automatic filament loading, steel sheet profiles, Octoprint compatibility and more
- New features introduced through firmware upgrades
6 REASONS TO BUY THE MK3S+
GREAT USER SUPPORT
We offer 24/7 tech support via live chat and email in seven languages. Our printers come with detailed instructions and guides for easy assembly and maintenance. You can also visit our knowledge base, community forum, Facebook groups and official Blog, where we publish useful 3D printing tips and tricks, contests and more!
FUN TO ASSEMBLE
The MK3S+ assembly kit is an excellent first step into the world of 3D printing. You will get to know your 3D printer inside out and find out how it works! The assembly is quite easy, requires no soldering, all cables are cut to length and ready to be plugged in. The assembly instructions are easy to follow and all texts are translated into 8 languages. All of this makes the kit very friendly to younger builders, too!
BUILT-IN SAFETY FEATURES
Original Prusa 3D printers are well-known for their reliability and safe operation. Every part of our printers is thoroughly tested in-house. The MK3S+ is equipped with three thermistors and comes with a custom-built high-quality Delta power supply. The printer can recognize issues with heating and stop operation to prevent damage.
OPEN-SOURCE AND COMMUNITY-FRIENDLY
All parts of our printer are open-source, which means we publish all source codes and blueprints online. The community around our products is huge and the feedback is overwhelmingly positive - don't believe us? Check out Facebook groups and YouTube videos! There's so much to do with your 3D printer - buying it is just the beginning!
READY FOR THE MULTI MATERIAL UPGRADE 2S
Multi Material Upgrade 2S is our unique add-on option for printing with up to 5 different filaments simultaneously. Multi-material could be your next step in the 3D printing world and the MK3S and MK3S+ are completely ready for the upgrade! MMU2S also allows you to print a soluble support interface - check out the video!
UPGRADABILITY
One of the most popular features of the Original Prusa i3 concept is upgradability. When you buy our 3D printer, you can upgrade it later to a newer version, so you don't need to buy a whole new model every two years like, for example, your phone or laptop. We also keep supporting our 3D printers with regular firmware updates that bring new features!
...AND MANY OTHER REASONS!
Best assembly instructions and free 3D Printing handbook
We didn't want to leave anything to chance, so our assembly instructions are pictured to the smallest detail.
See the assembly manual for yourself!
All fasteners and mechanical parts have 1:1 drawing so you can easily find them, and there is no chance of you picking a wrong one. You don't have to be MIT graduate to assemble our kit ;-)
Our fastest customer built the kit in 4 hours! Will you beat him?
Ready to print settings
We provide high print settings with the printer, so you don't have to dive into complex new programs the second you finish the build. You can start printing right away, and this gives you a great head start!
These settings are great for all kinds of objects, not just for a couple of prepared showpieces. After a while, when you're familiar with the printer, you can, of course, dive into tinkering ;-)
We are developing our own slicing software. PrusaSlicer is a feature-rich, frequently updated tool that contains everything you need to export the perfect print files for your Original Prusa 3D printer. But of course, we also have the settings for the third party slicers like Simplify3D, Cura, etc
Discount program for Original Prusa i3 kit owners
Our discount program for the Original Prusa i3 kit owners gives you a 5% discount on subsequent orders of selected filaments, including the high-precision Prusament!
How does it work?
To enter the discount program, you only need to purchase your first Original Prusa i3 kit for the full price. After the i3 kit is delivered to you, your Prusa account automatically applies the 5% discount on the selected filaments. So next time you'll be stocking up on filaments you can take advantage of the 5% discount :-). Make sure to be always logged into your Prusa account, to have the discount applied.
Quality guaranteed by Josef Prusa & Prusa Research
Prusa Research is a 3D printing company based in Prague, Czech Republic. It was founded by Josef Prusa, one of the core developers of the Open Source project RepRap, in 2012 as a one-man startup and grows to a 600+ team now.
The open-sourced Prusa i3 design is according to 3DHubs the most used 3D printer in the world.
Today we are shipping more than 6000 Original Prusa i3 printers per month to over 120 countries directly from Prague.
 Original Prusa i3 MK3S+ |  Original Prusa MINI+ |  Original Prusa i3 MK3S+ Multi Material Upgrade 2S | |
Build volume | 25 x 21 x 20 cm | 9.84 x 8.3 x 8 in | 18 x 18 x 18 cm | 7 x 7 x 7 in | 25 x 21 x 20 cm | 9.84 x 8.3 x 8 in |
Layer height | 0.05 – 0.35 mm | 0.05 – 0.25 mm with 0.4 mm nozzle | 0.15 – 0.35 mm |
Max travel speed | 200+ mm/s | 200+ mm/s | 200+ mm/s |
Max hotend/heatbed temp. | 300 °C / 120 °C (572 °F / 248 °F) | 280 °C / 100 °C (536 °F / 212 °F) | 300 °C / 120 °C (572 °F / 248 °F) |
Mainboard | Einsy RAMBo 8-bit board with Trinamic 2130 drivers co-developed with Ultimachine | Custom 32-bit Buddy electronics with STM32 and latest Trinamic 2209 silent stepper drivers | Einsy RAMBo 8-bit board with Trinamic 2130 drivers co-developed with Ultimachine |
MMU2S support | Yes | No | Yes |
Extruder | Direct drive | Bowden system with 3:1 gearing | Direct drive |
LCD screen | Monochromatic LCD | 2.8″ graphic 65k color screen | Monochromatic LCD |
Print surface | magnetic heatbed with removable PEI spring steel sheets | magnetic heatbed with removable PEI spring steel sheets | magnetic heatbed with removable PEI spring steel sheets |
Filament diameter | 1.75mm | 1.75mm | 1.75mm |
Number of materials (simultaneously) | 1 | 1 | 5 |
Nozzle diameter | 0.4mm (default) / other nozzle diameters supported | 0.4mm (default) / other nozzle diameters supported | 0.4mm (default) / other nozzle diameters supported |
Supported materials | Any thermoplastic including Nylon and Polycarbonate | PLA, PETG, ASA, ABS, Flex | Any thermoplastic including soluble supports - PVA, BVOH... |
Filament sensor | Yes (IR) | Optional upgrade | Yes (mechanical) |
Power panic | Hardware-based, single G-code line accuracy | Future software upgrade, single layer accuracy | Hardware-based, single G-code line accuracy |
Ethernet connection | Via Raspberry Pi | Yes | Via Raspberry Pi |
Wi-Fi connection | Via Raspberry Pi | Separate future upgrade (ESP Wi-Fi module) | Via Raspberry Pi |
Advanced sensors | 3 thermistors + SuperPINDA, fan RPM sensors | 3 thermistors + SuperPINDA, fan RPM sensors | F.I.N.D.A |
Farm mode | No | Yes (upcoming feature) | No |
Calibration | Automatic, Mesh Bed Leveling | Automatic, Mesh Bed Leveling | Automatic, Mesh Bed Leveling |
Print medium | SD card | USB drive / LAN | SD card |
Firmware update interface | USB port | USB drive / LAN | USB port |
Power supply | 240W, custom made by Delta with Power Panic HW | 160W, external adapter by Mean Well or Delta depending on the region | 240W, custom made by Delta with Power Panic HW |
Kit price | 749 USD / 769 EUR (VAT incl.) | 349 USD / 379 EUR (VAT incl.) | 299.00 USD / 299 EUR (VAT incl.) |
Assembled printer price | 999 USD / 999 EUR (VAT incl.) | 399 USD / 419 EUR (VAT incl.) | - |
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Reviews
DFitz
Great kit instruction manual, and the first print was exceptional. Amazing value, with really clever engineering.
The only thing I'm not crazy about is the z-adjust. Bit too much guesswork.
Would certainly buy again.
- 5 out of 5 people found this review useful.
Prusa MK3S Kit
If you want a printer that just simply works right out of the box look no further! I was blown away with quality and ease of printing not to mention support! This is a machine that simply does not fail. If you follow instruction manual from prusa you will not be disappointed. I own more expensive printers I will not mention any names and my MK3 s blows them out of the water! just recently finished 100 hour print with no fails! There is no words to say how well this printer works. No wheels to adjust to bed and fight with that first layer Etc just simply slice and print. Another bonus prusa is constantly improving on their firmware and they do have live show every week with new options very well explained.... there is no other printer in this price range that will do what prusa can!
- 8 out of 8 people found this review useful.
Now I understand what the hype is about.
I purchased a Prusa i3 MK3s kit during the Covid 19 lockdown. I built it in a weekend, and it has printed perfectly since. Now I understand what the hype is about. Highly recommend paying a little more for Original Prusa. You will be glad that you did.
- 8 out of 8 people found this review useful.
Fantastic Machine
I was impressed from the time I opened the box. The assembly instructions are great, and the end product works perfectly. Well done!
- 5 out of 5 people found this review useful.
Phil Bell
So happy with this printer! Great fun to put it together and works so well and efficiently that ive ordered a second one!
I just cant wish this 6 week wait away quick enough!
- 3 out of 3 people found this review useful.
Nearly perfect
Very happy with almost every aspect of this printer. The design is solid and very well thought out. Print quality and speed is on a par with, or better than, many more expensive machines. Building the kit was also a joy as instructions were very clear and easy to follow.
The one thing I don't like is the mesh bed levelling. Despite taking care to get the frame as level as possible I could not get a smooth first layer, not even with the 7x7 points mesh. Some web searching told me I needed to do some test prints and set the bed level correction values. I get why this isn't done from factory but it really should at least have been mentioned in the instructions. After upgrading the firmware to v3.9 it did get a lot better but I'm still not not a fan of the PINDA probe as it keeps me from using any build surface I like.
Having said that I think most people are gonna be very happy with this printer regardless of experience level.
- 3 out of 3 people found this review useful.
High Quality Generally, Textured Sheet is a miss
I got my MK3S kit, and the build was interesting and fun. It is clear during the build that much thought went into the design, and the components are generally high quality. The Textured Sheet, however, should not be the only sheet you buy. It has problems with PLA prints detaching mid print, and is more of a specialty item. I can't get the Benchy on the included SD card to print w/o detaching, a poor initial experience. Looking at the forms it appears this is fairly common. If you buy only one sheet (US customers avoiding the $800 limit) start w/ the smooth one.
- 14 out of 15 people found this review useful.
It's Worth Waiting For
Ok, I get i at this point it is 5 to 6 weeks to wait for a printer. I was saying the same thing when I ordered mine, Do I want to wait that long to get it, so in the week it took me to decide to order it I was now going to wait a extra week longer instead of just ordering it when I started looking, and don't think in that last week I was not thinking if I had just ordered it it would be here.
So is it everything I wanted yes and more, that being said there is a learning cure yes but you can be assured that these printers are running on their print farm 24/7.So that being said I looked at every problem in that frame of mind and everyone was my fault they are not going to be selling these with a bunch of problems they will fix them.
I have printed pla,petg,tpu,tpe,abs and soon nylon it has worked great on all of them.
Ok lets deal with the next problem the price yes you might think it is high compared to a ender I have a ender 5 does it work yes is the quality as good no, the main reason is linear bearings or rubber wheels running in a extrusion bearings out do rubber wheels and that is a main part that convinced me to go this way. The other, upgrades new machine comes out you want to upgrade you can
So buy it you wont be sorry
- 10 out of 12 people found this review useful.
Amazing print quality and easy to use!
I assembled the printer in about 8-9 hours over 2 days (life gets in the way sometimes). It felt a little overwhelming at times but if you pause, breath and read...it all falls into place. I already own a Tevo Tornado and I have to say the Prusa i3 MK3S is freaking unbelievable! The auto-calibration is simple and accurate. The on the fly Z adjustment is easy and very effective. The Prusa is built like a tank. I've printed 8-9 things so far and have not needed anything to help with bed adhesion. The magnetic bed sheets make removing prints super easy. I'm very excited about trying multicolor printing, My MMU2 is unfortunately is still back ordered. I can not recommend this printer enough. Thank you Prusa team!
- 10 out of 10 people found this review useful.
over 2000h print time...
... and still everithing is working. just some easy maintainence from time to time. checking if the srews are still tight, removing dust from the fans, adding lubricant and running a selfe test. i am supper happy
- 9 out of 9 people found this review useful.